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tomed

France
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Posted - Mar 29 2015 :  16:17:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Enrico,

Please is there any rules to correctly define the reduced order model (-r) before running the simulation?
In fact, this number gives an impact to the results regarding R,L values.

Thank you for your help and continuous support

Regards,

Tomed

Enrico

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Posted - Mar 31 2015 :  20:07:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of course this is impacting the result. However defining the ROM order a-priori is not so easy. I would suggest the approach at page 21 of the user's guide to determine the accuracy of the reduced-order model over a reference structure.

Then for similar structures you can apply the same order, as a rule of thumb, for having equivalent accuracy.

Best Regards,
Enrico
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tomed

France
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Posted - Apr 01 2015 :  08:40:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Enrico,

One more time thank you for your support.
May be should make sense to launch a parametric study making the reduced order model changing to find the more accurate order???
Anyway, still have some questions:
is there any link between this the order model and Pade approximation order or Arnoldi's one?

Thank you for your help and continuous support

Regards,

Tomed
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Enrico

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Posted - Apr 01 2015 :  09:22:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
May be should make sense to launch a parametric study making the reduced order model changing to find the more accurate order???


Yes but this depends on your case. If R and L are slowly changing, a low order model may be accurate enough, viceversa if R and L have sharp changes you need a higher order ROM. So since this eventually depends on your model, it goes case by case.

On the ROM, yes it is Arnoldi. For a concise digression on the method, you may refer to L. M. Silveira, M. Kamon, J. White, "Efficient Reduced-Order Modeling of Frequency-Dependent Coupling Inductances associated with 3-D Interconnect Structures", IEEE Transactions on Components, Packaging and Manufacturing Technology, Vol. 19, Issue 2, May 1996

Best Regards,
Enrico



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